Are there any questions please?
PERSON: Neville, you tell us that we play all the parts. In my present state of consciousness I would not want to play the part of the violent person. Do we escape that with our understanding? The question is, if we play all the parts can we escape playing the violent part?
Mr Goddard: My dials(?) say the violent part is being played by God. And you and God are one. You learn eventually to play it more beautifully as we would avoid certain notes on the piano. But don’t destroy the note, you need it for some other piece you’re going to play. You can take a discord and resolve it into a dissonance.
If I took the note from that piano that caused the discord in the hope I would never make another discord, I can’t play the piano. So everything must be present, including violence. Judges in the 10th chapter of Isaiah, behold the Etherian, the staff in his hand is the rod of my anger. He uses everyone to bring to pass what man is mis-creating. Yes?
PERSON: Yes, but you can avoid it if you know and don’t activate that —
MR. GODDARD: Certainly, my dear. But there was no other being to play the part. If I select to play the part of the horrible beast of the world, God and I are one, therefore God is playing the part. He submits himself to my choice because he became me that I may be as he is. He is infinite love. But while I am still asleep he plays the sacrificial part of playing the parts I select. So it is only God that plays all the parts. That’s the sacrifice as told us in the 53rd of Isaiah, put all the things up on his back.
PERSON: (Inaudible)
MR. GODDARD: The question here?
PERSON: (Inaudible)
MR. GODDARD: The question.
PERSON: Oh, I, you have taught us that in a 6,000-year span that we play all of the parts.
MR. GODDARD: Yeah.
PERSON: In my present state of consciousness I would like to avoid the violent parts.
MR. GODDARD: In the 6,000 years – the question is this. I have taught you to believe that the journey takes 6,000 years. As Blake said “I behold the visions of my deadly sleep of 6,000 years dancing around thy skirts like a serpent of precious stones and gold. I know it is myself, oh my creator and redeemer.”
So if 6,000 years is the length of the journey and within that six all parts are being played can I avoid these horrible parts? Certainly. But in our ignorance we play them. We fall into them. You will give a banquet one day, the Messianic banquet everyone will give. And you will see a sea of human imperfection and you will redeem them. You’d played the blind, the halt(?), the withered, everything.
They’re all waiting for you to walk by. As you walk by all are molded into perfection for they were garments that you played and they are now invited to Messiah’s banquet because you have risen from it all.
You see you are something infinitely greater than any being that you see in this world. You are a supernatural being who is God playing these parts, the actor is not Hamlet. The actor goes home and leaves Hamlet in the closet.
Any other questions, please?
PERSON: Could you tell us again the breathing techniques?
MR. GODDARD: Will I tell you again the breathing technique? I find if I call before my mind’s eye what I would like to activate and I make it so that it really thrills me, a conversation between two friends discussing the fulfillment of their dream, which is my dream for them. And then you breathe in and you breathe out. Your inhale and exhale is a complete personal thing. I can’t give you the numbers. You don’t do it once, twice, or 50 times.
It’s entirely up to you to breathe in and breathe out while you are listening to this conversation and bring yourself to the limit of a thrill. Then with one deep, deep inhalation your whole body explodes. Every little atom seems to open and something goes out. As you are told in Scripture, “Who has touched me for I perceive virtue has gone out of me”. You touched it on the inside. You made it real and you exploded. It comes with the last inhalation. But this is something that is very personal. You must try it.
PERSON: If two are working on the same thought from different angles, I mean from different understanding of teachings will this in any way modify or change the final outcome? Would it lengthen the time —
MR. GODDARD: If two are working from different angles —
PERSON: Yes. MR. GODDARD: — for a common goal for someone else?
PERSON: Common goal, yes.
MR. GODDARD: No, it doesn’t really matter. It doesn’t really matter. I have friends who will call me and ask me to hear good news for them. I know from their own confession in the past they haven’t broken that little trick, but they want to be sure. So they call their Christian Science practitioner, their Unity practitioner, Science of Mind practitioner, they call all of the practitioners in the hope that one is going to hear it. (Laughter)
MR. GODDARD: A complete absence of faith on the part of the one who wants the help.
PERSON: This was not the (inaudible) and I believe (inaudible) than what you teach.
MR. GODDARD: My teaching is not based upon theory. I did not sit down to work out a workable philosophy of life. My teaching is based upon the experience of Scripture. I’ve experienced Scripture. And Scripture is not the product of human wisdom. It’s not. It’s revelation. But unnumbered isms in the world – brilliant minds, wonderful minds, they have sat down and gathered themselves together to work out what they consider the right path. And so all these isms are based upon just human wisdom.
The Bible is not human wisdom. In its search for the meaning of life and for God the human mind could never have conceived of the story of the Gospel. Never could have conceived it. It is something that was revealed to man. As Paul said “I did not hear it from a man, nor was I taught it by a man. But it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ”. He unveils himself in you as you. And you’ve been looking for him on the outside all through the centuries. And suddenly it happens.
And it’s so different in prospect from what it comes to be seen in retrospect. After it’s happened to you, well then you know. 17 So my teaching is not speculation. I am not theorizing. I am telling you what I know from experience. And it is all Scripture. Of course the world thinks they’ve outgrown Scripture. They will say what, that’s an old book, a myth. That belongs to the dead ages. They’ll get something new. And so they’ll get something new. You’ll find other isms springing up too, all over the world.
PERSON: Is your system a system that can be used to work for translation, spiritual translation?
MR. GODDARD: Did you hear the question? Is this system a system that can be used towards spiritual translation?
You cannot in any way hasten your spiritual growth. Spiritual maturity is a gradual state from a god of tradition to a god of experience.
You can’t possibly by not eating certain things or by eating certain things or by attending certain classes or not attending certain classes in any words hasten your spiritual growth. It is coming.
What you can do with this principle, that’s why I call it both a law and a promise, the promise comes first. The law comes 400 years later. 400 is the cross, as long as I wear it. And so he gives me a law to cushion the blows while I wait for the promise of the father. And the promise of the father is to give me himself as though there were no other, just God the Father.
But all of these translations and these extrasensory perceptions and all these things, they don’t interest me really. What would it matter?
UCLA three weeks ago they gave a little weekend group. They charged $100 for three days and they had I think five speakers. It was crowded to the gunnels. Over 500 attended the class at UCLA. And not one man on that panel, not one is a man of vision. In his present state a vision would scare him to death. But he knows all about extrasensory perception and talks about it learnedly. But I have always maintained there is an awful lot of learned ignorance in this world.
Any other questions, please?
PERSON: Neville, my attendance here at your lecture this year was spoiled by the fact that I went into the hospital last week and stayed there for five days. Now of all the times in the world to go to the hospital, I certainly didn’t plan it this time. I don’t think. But you have told us that we do not recognize our own harvest. Now my question is this, to keep us from reaping these unwanted harvests, how do we make ourselves more conscious to ourselves?
MR. GODDARD: Well, I would not say this is actually your answer, but many a person coming to my meetings over the years, I started on the 2nd day of February, 1938. And it has been an unbroken series since, from coast to coast. They have come to my meeting and my terminology differs from theirs. I speak of Jesus Christ more intimately. I bring him down and close the gap between Christ and myself. I treat him as my own wonderful human imagination, filled with love. That shocks people. They go out at that moment never to hear me again. And if they can possibly say to someone else “Don’t go and hear him” they will.
I am not saying in the interval that you’ve been coming here I didn’t say something that annoyed you and you turned your back that night with a little pledge “Why go and hear him?”. So when you wanted most to hear me you go to the hospital. (Laughter)
MR. GODDARD: That’s how it works! It would be nice if you went to the hospital when you wanted to go. But I’m here for a short interval. I’m not saying you did it — (audio stops here)